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Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Sub Mar 01, 2014 8:51 pm
od Alex V6
24v ima 140kg bez agregata, pk sistema, usisa, izduva, tecnosti...
U ovom stanju:
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Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Sub Mar 01, 2014 8:56 pm
od sale_75
Gruja napisao:Iskreno, stra' me od fena. Velika je komplikacija da to sve proradi kako treba a ja sam mator i suvise slabih zivaca za takve avanture. Da ne pricam o parama - ako skrcam bogatstvo u nesto sto ne proradi mogu se slikam, nema para onda za drugu varijantu...

Za V6 me Ale i popalio, kaze turimo 3.0 iz 166 i uzivancija, ima delova da ne razmisljas a o Nm da ne pricamo... ma otkud znam, prvo da zavrsim plehariju, doradim jos malo vesanje i kocnice pa cemo tek onda macchinu.... ko zna do tada sta cu jos saznati i provrteti kroz glavu :D
Ne diraj nista!

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Sub Mar 01, 2014 10:40 pm
od JaMaL
Sve zavisi sta zelis sa autom...

Potrosnja je takodje faktor, koliko ces voziti taj auto, svaki dan? jbg mnogo stvari koje treba izvagati...

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Sub Mar 01, 2014 11:15 pm
od Gruja
Vozicu ga vrlo retko, mator je da bude daily driver... poneki track day (ako sve bude po planu verovatno na Nordschleife) i ovako kad se uzelim malo da se vozam. Tako da potrosnja nije nikakav faktor. Najbitnija je pouzdanost+snaga a da sto manje izgubim od balansa/lezanja...
Nazalost nepomirljivo ali gledam da napravim najbolji kompromis...

Ove cifre za V6 iz 166 su ohrabrujuce, sa akumulatorom u gepeku i eventualno haubom od plastike gubitak mi se cini podnosljivim. Ali dobro, izvagacu ja to jos, ima vremena...

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 9:36 pm
od sale_75
[youtube]7LmbhkT8jjs[/youtube]
Mozda je bilo, jel ovo Milano?

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 10:04 pm
od Nigy
Naravno da nije.

Milano je ime koje je 75 nosila u americi.
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Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 10:22 pm
od AckeB
Kad smo već kod 75-ice (Milano) u Americi...
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Izvinjavam se ukoliko je neko već kačio. :arflag

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 10:22 pm
od sale_75
Hvala, nesto sam se zablentavio sto se tice branika ali u sustini sam hteo da postavim pitanje da li se pravila samo 2.5 ovako oguljena ili je bila i 3.0?

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 10:29 pm
od Nigy
V6 3.0. kao i TS su imali svoj debi u 75 i to 2 godine posle predstavljanja modela ('85.), a u klipu koji si postavio se moze videti kako su sektasice izgledale na pocetku proizvodnje.

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 10:31 pm
od AckeB
Bila je posebna edicija za britansko tržište (ali opet sa drugačijim branicima).
Slika
Clarkson je vozio u Alfa Challenge-u.

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 10:45 pm
od sale_75
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_75
Ovde pise da se Milano pravila do 87', a od 87' America
Konkretno oni su 2.5 zamenili sa 3.0 motorom, a da li je 1.8 turbo bio u opciji standarnih branika?

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 10:53 pm
od Nigy
Postojalo je mnogo specijalnih edicija 75 - za odredjena trzista, dilere...

Kao sto rekoh, Milano je radjen za americko trziste. America je isporucivana u evropi sa malo izmenjenim branicima koji su radjeni za americko trziste, tj. Milano - verovatno prodaja preko bare nje isla po planu, pa su se ovde resavali viska.
Postojao je turbo sa standardnim branicima.

Zanimljiva najava prodaje Milano (posle najave za Yugo :D)
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Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 11:04 pm
od JaMaL
Britanska verzija se zove Veloce...

A prvi modeli, <'88 , su i najbolji, najlaksi su ako nista drugo i najredji su. italijani kazu da je prvi turbo bio brzi 0-100 i vozljiviji od Amerike i QV-a, jer je imao manje kg i drugacije bregaste...

Ojacanja na Amerika modelima nisu strukturalna, tj. ne doprinose krutoci karoserije vec standardima sigurnosti za amerisko trziste i totalno su bespotrebni, samo "kvare" originalnu sasiju.
Tj. vozne karakteristike zbog dodatih kilograma.

Dodali su 100+ kg na automobil, u QV recimo su dodali 10ks ali nisu pipnuli vesanje... to nije cool...

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 11:09 pm
od Nigy
Iskopah i tekst o specijalnim edicijama.
Production Specials

In the Netherlands the "Van Lingen Brothers` slogan" was " there`s no substitute for cubic-inches!" They increased the 128BHP 2.0 to a 143BHP 2.1 version. Savali named it: 75 Firenze. SAVALI also converted the 2.5 V6 to 3.0 V6. But when Alfa Romeo introduced the 3.0 V6, SAVALI increased this engine up to a 3.3 V6. It`s power increased to 220+BHP.

In 1986 at the saloon of Turin, a 75 sportswagon was introduced. It was built by the Italian caoch-builder Rayton Fissore from Cherasco on a turbo base. Fissore introduced it as a Turbowagon and was planning to build it in small numbers, but it never became reality.

In 1987, right before the first 3.0 V6 appeared, Alfa specialist Andreas Tsolakas of Alfa Racing in Thessaloniki, Greece, made an one-off special engine for a 75, based on the 2.5 V6 block, enlarged to 2.8 liters and raising the power output to 190 bhp. Special cams and pistons were used, the CR was raised to 10,8:1 and larger injectors off the 75 turbo were used, as well as the ECU off a BMW 3.3 L engine, adapted to the special engine to supply the extra demand on fuel. Later, in 1990, another special engine was again made, this time based on the 3.0 V6 block, enlarged to 3,6 liters. That was a very special preparation: Cosworth pistons and liners, 11:1 CR, specially prepared cams by C & B, ported head, hand made exhaust collectors and the rest of the exhaust, again 75 turbo injectors and another BMW ECU, from a 3.5 L engine and revised differential with 47% lock-up capability. The gearbox itself was a combination of 75 3.0 and 75 2.4 TD gears and final drive. The final figures are about 270 bhp and around 30 kg of torque. Top speed on the 3.6 was about 250 kms.

In 1987 the Alfa 75 Twin Spark was sold in Switzerland in two different models: Twin Spark 2.0 and Twin Spark S. The Twin Spark 2.0 was not as the known Twin Spark, but identical to the 2.0 carb. The Twin Spark S is identical to the Twin Spark sold in Italy and abroad, with the rear spoiler on the trunk lid and so on.

In March 1987 The Alfa 75 1.8 Turbo Evoluzione was introduced. It distinguishes itself through following details from the "normal" Alfa 75 Turbo:

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Limited series of only 500. All were built in spring 1987
Only delivered in red
Front-grill was not in grey, but in red
6x15" Rims instead of the 14" rims, coloured red
Stickers on the side with grey background and black text "75 Turbo Evoluzione"
Wings were widened, side panels, front-spoiler and bumper all made from super-light GFK (according to Alfa was the CD-value from 0,38 down to 0,33 reduced - The Evoluzione was the first 75'er with the small rear-spoiler, which was later used in the series version).
Seat design was slightly altered
Stiffer springs and even stiffer suspension units
Thicker rear-stabilizer (from 21mm up to 27,5mm)
Larger wheel-bearings front & rear
The tow hook was moved
Redesigned "uprights" and front axle geometry
Exhaust-manifold with two-piece exhaust
Redesigned turbo
Strengthened main-bearings
Strengthened cylinder block
Strengthened cylinder head
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Pistons which are 0,5 mm smaller, this then gives a cubic capacity of 1762 ccm. The standard from Alfa 75 1.8 Turbo is 1779 ccm. These measures were taken because the Evo was to drive in the group A (Carb, motors up to 3 Litre cubic capacity). For the classification of the turbo motors is the conversion factor 1,7. By 1762 ccm this would give us 2995.4 cc With the series bore this would have given the Evo 24 ccm more than legally allowed.

The British introduced the Veloce-versions in 1987. Those Veloce-versions were fitted with very nice special bodykits.

In 1990 the Imola was introduced, based on the 1.8IE. The 75 1.8 Imola was sold in Italy as INDY. The standard equip- ment list was comprehensive. It had body-coloured side mirrors, side skirts and flared arches, body coloured front and rear bumpers and the Twin Spark interior trim.

In 1991 the 75 Turbo Quadrofoglio Verde Serie Numerata was introduced on the Italian market. The extra features are: a numbered aluminium plate on the dashboardunit, a Recaro interior and special light-alloy wheels. Alfa Romeo also introduced a twin spark version of this car with the same extra`s.

In 1991 the Greek importer of Alfa Romeo imported a special version (the final) of the Alfa 75, it was called TROFEO, with the 1.6 and 1.8 cat engines. It had body-coloured side mirrors, side skirts and flared arches, body coloured front and rear bumpers, the Twin Spark interior trim, A/C and P/S standard on both engine versions, as well as front fog lights and special 14 inch alloy wheels with center caps for the 1.6 and full bolt covers for the 1.8. This edition was fitted with the amber front turn signals. It was available in the following colors: White, Red, Silver and dark Anthracite metallic. No other factory extras (e.g sunroof or ABS) were available, not even if specially ordered. It was beeing sold in Greece until 1994, even after the Alfa 155 was introduced, people preferred the Alfa 75.

The French introduced the 75 1.6/1.8 Diva with a colourfull striping and a different boot spoiler.

Alfa 75 model year '92; after the launch of the 155, the 75 was produced in the 1.6 IE, 1.6 IE cat and 2.0 TD models. The exterior was similar to the INDY / IMOLA / TROFEO, except the light alloy wheels "star design", and the interior was the same of the T.Spark. The paint layout of the bumpers was the same as the first '86 turbo: the same colour of the body except the lowest part, that was black.

In 1992 Alfa Romeo Nederland introduced its last special edition: the 75 1.8ie Epoca.

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 11:09 pm
od sale_75
QV je 2.5 V6 do 1987 ?

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 11:25 pm
od sale_75

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 11:29 pm
od JaMaL
Do 1988 je 2.5 v6 zvan QV u evropi... do izlaska 3.0, i u americi su bile 2 serije Platinum i Gold... 3.0 i 2.5.

Sa tim da su Milano Platinum i Gold imali ABS, Klimu, Automatski menjac, Cruise Control, zmigavce na stranama branika, Shiber itd u opremi...

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Uto Mar 04, 2014 11:43 pm
od AckeB
2.5 se u Australiji zadržao do 1990. ali samo sa trostepenim automatskim menjačem.
A u Evropi su poslednji preostali primerci prodati '89. Zvanično su se evropski modeli 2.5 proizvodili između '85. i '87.

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Sre Mar 05, 2014 2:07 am
od Nigy
Bilo je tri Milano modela sa 2.5 motorom - Silver, Gold i Platinum a srazmerno vrednosti metala u nazivu bio je i nivo opreme.
Milano Verde se pojavio sledece godine sa 3.0 motorom, par meseci posle premijere u evropi. Ono sto je zanimljivo kod Verde je da je to prvi model sa Recaro sedistima, koja ce se posle povlacenja sa americkog trzista '89. pojaviti '90. u Numerata seriji.

I da se ispravim: sa izbacivanjem Verde verzije na americko trziste, u evropi se pojavila America u 3.0 i Turbo verziji, tj America postoji od '87.

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Sre Mar 05, 2014 11:38 pm
od JaMaL
http://www.aktuelni.com/video-aktuelni/ ... -4499.html

kako se vadi motor...

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Čet Mar 06, 2014 12:02 am
od delic
vw i nije za bolje,sad su ga unapredili

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Čet Mar 06, 2014 1:51 am
od Nigy
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Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Sub Mar 08, 2014 2:32 pm
od sale_75
Da li neko ima da mi proda ispravan rezervoar za 2.0 ts? :)

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Sub Mar 08, 2014 8:42 pm
od Gruja
Ili mozda da ti da pticu dodo na zajam? :D

Re: ALFA ROMEO 75 - Legende ne umiru!

Poslato: Sub Mar 08, 2014 9:32 pm
od Nigy
thinkof:
zajedno sa parom nenapuklih belih migavaca. hahaha