Ferrari 250 GTO, po mom skromnom misljenju to je VRH! Taj auto NE VOZE POZERI... A i prilicno je nedostupan... tacka... Sto se tice novije istorije 8c Competizione pre bilo kog novijeg Ferrari-ja, Maserati-ja ili Lamba... Jel' moguce da ce neko da pita zasto...
Jos niko nije otkrio cije je ono cudo (612)?
612 Scaglietti
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speedfreak968
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'07. AR 159 SW JTDm
'03. Peug 206 XS 1.6 16v
ex '96. AR 146 ti
ex '98. AR 156 2.0 TS
ex '02. AR 156 2.5 V6 24v
ex '04. AR 156 SW ti - Lokacija: Bgd
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GostGo
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Superautomobili
Ako vec novac nije problem, a kupujem beskompromisni sportski automobil, onda bih kupio McLaren F1. Stlom mi nije ni blizu Ferrarija ili Lamborghinija (mada su ovog upropastili prvo Ameri pa sada Kobasicari), ali dosada nije napravljen bolji automobil. Jedino sto u njemu kuca kobasicarsko srce, ali ljuto zacinjeno. Pored njega, za dane kad sam bas naostren, bio bi tu Countach. A kad vec imam toliko para, 
naravno da bih posedovao i krunski dragulj marke koja me ujela za dusu - 8C.
Sto se Lamborghini-ja tice, ranije su ga kupovali i VOZILI - VOZACI, a ostali su ga kupili i posle par desetina kilometara parkirali u garazu ili prodali, jer .hebote, ko ce ovo sranje da vozi!.. O tome dosta govori i komentar u britanskom casopisu .CAR. : Lamboghini Countach needs DRIVERS! E, a onda je Chrysler napravio Diabla, napustio ih je Marcello Ghandini, pa su napravili Diablo VT, pa ih uze VW!
I sad hoce da upakuju Gallardov V10 u Audi S8! (bich)
naravno da bih posedovao i krunski dragulj marke koja me ujela za dusu - 8C.Sto se Lamborghini-ja tice, ranije su ga kupovali i VOZILI - VOZACI, a ostali su ga kupili i posle par desetina kilometara parkirali u garazu ili prodali, jer .hebote, ko ce ovo sranje da vozi!.. O tome dosta govori i komentar u britanskom casopisu .CAR. : Lamboghini Countach needs DRIVERS! E, a onda je Chrysler napravio Diabla, napustio ih je Marcello Ghandini, pa su napravili Diablo VT, pa ih uze VW!
I sad hoce da upakuju Gallardov V10 u Audi S8! (bich)
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GostGo
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Realno Alfu ne voze pozeri, naravno osim ovih modela od par hiljada eura koje kupe likovi koji su videli da nije skupo, culi su da ide dobro i posle kace opelov ili mitsubishijev znak umesto Alfinog da bi se bar malo priblizili svom neostvarenom snu! O njima ne govorim!
Ovi koji bi eventualno uzeli GT ili Breru, hmmm pa tu bi i moglo biti pozera, ali kakvi god da su neki respect prema njima imam jer opet nisu uzeli da poziraju nekim audijem ili tako necim!
Ali ovi sto imaju i po par stotina hiljada za auto SIGURNO ne bi uzeli Alfu, tu je Porsche, Lamborghini i Ferrari i samim tim koliko god to bili automobili sa pravim sportskim karakteristikama, mene poprilicno odbijaju od sebe (kao potencijalnog kupca
) jer su polako poceli da budu slika i prilika uglavnom onih ljudi koji imaju para, a ne onih koji zaista znaju da ih voze, vole i sve sto ide uz jedan Ferrari i Lamborghini!
Pored ALfe bi tu bio i Maserati, ali Alfa prvo pa 100 godina pauze, pa mozda onda...
Ovi koji bi eventualno uzeli GT ili Breru, hmmm pa tu bi i moglo biti pozera, ali kakvi god da su neki respect prema njima imam jer opet nisu uzeli da poziraju nekim audijem ili tako necim!
Ali ovi sto imaju i po par stotina hiljada za auto SIGURNO ne bi uzeli Alfu, tu je Porsche, Lamborghini i Ferrari i samim tim koliko god to bili automobili sa pravim sportskim karakteristikama, mene poprilicno odbijaju od sebe (kao potencijalnog kupca
) jer su polako poceli da budu slika i prilika uglavnom onih ljudi koji imaju para, a ne onih koji zaista znaju da ih voze, vole i sve sto ide uz jedan Ferrari i Lamborghini!Pored ALfe bi tu bio i Maserati, ali Alfa prvo pa 100 godina pauze, pa mozda onda...
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starac vujadin
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Ja bih rekao da su pored svega to takodje ljudi koji pametno ulozu novac u nesto sto ce biti klasika i neprolazna vrednost. Na kraju ce, ako zele, moci dobro i da zarade.
Acqua-Olio-Benzina
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GostGo
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BTW u PL treba da stigne 8 komada
mozda i vidim jednu (jednog dana...)
a zar nije 500 komada?killaz napisao:Gde spada onih 4000 dusha koje su naruchile 8C a da ga nisu ni provozali?bojanTI napisao:Ali ovi sto imaju i po par stotina hiljada za auto SIGURNO ne bi uzeli Alfu...
BTW u PL treba da stigne 8 komada
mozda i vidim jednu (jednog dana...)-
GostGo
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Nisam se precizno izrazio, mislio sam konkretno na te 'sminkere' koji imaju toliko para i one koji ne znaju sta kupuju, pa uzimaju Ferrari, Lamborghini i Porsche a takvih je 95% uveren sam! E za njih sam ubedjen da nikada ne bi uzeli 8C!killaz napisao:Gde spada onih 4000 dusha koje su naruchile 8C a da ga nisu ni provozali?bojanTI napisao:Ali ovi sto imaju i po par stotina hiljada za auto SIGURNO ne bi uzeli Alfu...
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GostGo
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Hmmm, 4000 x 150 000 eura, to je cirka 600 000 000 eura...
Pa ne znam da li je problem napraviti tih 4000 komada, ili nije dozvoljeno, ili nece zbog toga sto im model onda ne bi bio jedinstven, ili ne znam ti ni ja sto, ali taj novac u njihovu kasu... Pa to resava mnoge probleme, zar ne?!
Pa ne znam da li je problem napraviti tih 4000 komada, ili nije dozvoljeno, ili nece zbog toga sto im model onda ne bi bio jedinstven, ili ne znam ti ni ja sto, ali taj novac u njihovu kasu... Pa to resava mnoge probleme, zar ne?!
Srpska matematika.-
kilsonki
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Sve je to super i realno, ali kad bi imali serijsku proizvodnju space frame-a, koji bi bio verovatno dzabe u odnosu na sadashnju situaciju. Koliko kapiram, ceo automobil se radi ruchno, a ruchni rad u Italiji koshta opako.
Pitanje je koja je dobit u celom projektu, stoga ta rachunica 1+1=2 nema veze sa realnoshcu. Kada prochitash da su pare namenjene za reklamiranje usmerili u izradu 8C, sve ti je jasnije. 8C je za sada samo jedna veoma jaka reklama za fabriku, a da li ce ta reklama pokrenuti neshto josh bolje, videcemo (nadam se da hoce).
Pitanje je koja je dobit u celom projektu, stoga ta rachunica 1+1=2 nema veze sa realnoshcu. Kada prochitash da su pare namenjene za reklamiranje usmerili u izradu 8C, sve ti je jasnije. 8C je za sada samo jedna veoma jaka reklama za fabriku, a da li ce ta reklama pokrenuti neshto josh bolje, videcemo (nadam se da hoce).
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GostGo
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Najradije bih (da mi finansije dovoljavaoju, naravno) imao jedan 156 SW (pre restylinga) za svaki dan i bilo koji Aston Martin za uzivanje. Ne verujem da bi bilo koji auto bio dostojan da se sedne u njega posle Aston Martina, sem naravno - Alfe
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A posto je AM samo daleki san a AR realnost - odluka je laka - AR (cim ja budem birao auto).
Sada me verovatno ljudi van AR dela nece shvatiti uopste ali meni Alfa po smeku uopste ne zaostaje za AM-om, samo malo manje lima i manje kubika i konja ali smek je tu.
Ferari je svojojm promocijom i reklamom dosao do toga da je kao i Porsche i Lambo - .auto za seljake. a AM josuvek nisu provalili. Razlika po meni je otprilike kao kupini skupo odelo nekog poznatog italijanskog kreatora ili otici u London kod poznatog krojaca koji ce (za ne manje pare) sasiti odelo po narudzbini.
Skoro sam imao situaciju kada je jedan poznanik hteo da kupi nov auto (inace voli dobre automobile a i ima para) i razmisljao izmedju S600 i A8 W12 kada sam mu rekao da pogleda Maserati pitao .sta je to. a kada je video auto bacio sam ga u rebus - josuvek razmislja. Samo sam mu objasnio da pojaviti se u Meci ili Audiju ima svoju tezinu ali pojaviti se u Maseratiju pokazuje da covek pored para poseduje i dobar ukus - ne podleze kliseima i pokazuje da razmislja drugacije od drugih.
Bas sam se premisljao da li das nesto postujem da ne budem ispljuvan kad eto nekoga ko se slaze samnom. Ja pored Alfe imam samo jos jednu (automobilsku) ljubav - a to je Aston Martin. Takva elegancija i .kultura. ne postoji ni kod jednog drugog proizvodjaca. Ferari i Lambo su mi nekako suvise brutalni (Lambo narocito), Pagani i te zvrkove da ne pominjemo, Porsche mi je konfekcija a Aston Martin - vrhunac sportske elegancije.luci napisao:naravno 8c.. kako si to mogao da zaboravis.....
ja recimo kad bi imao dovoljno love da uzmem neki opasan auto verovatno ne bi uzeo ferari nego bi se malo bolje uputio i uzeo neko drugo ali ekskluzivnije zlo (naravno italijansko, a sta drugo) posto iznad svega volim da dobre a retke stvari.... jedno je sigurno ako bi uzimao skup auto bio bi sportski nikako limuzina i ni slucajno nemacki....
verovatno bi uzeo aston martina pa da me bog vidi....
sve to naravno ako ne nadjem 8c slobodan
Najradije bih (da mi finansije dovoljavaoju, naravno) imao jedan 156 SW (pre restylinga) za svaki dan i bilo koji Aston Martin za uzivanje. Ne verujem da bi bilo koji auto bio dostojan da se sedne u njega posle Aston Martina, sem naravno - Alfe
.A posto je AM samo daleki san a AR realnost - odluka je laka - AR (cim ja budem birao auto).
Sada me verovatno ljudi van AR dela nece shvatiti uopste ali meni Alfa po smeku uopste ne zaostaje za AM-om, samo malo manje lima i manje kubika i konja ali smek je tu
.Ferari je svojojm promocijom i reklamom dosao do toga da je kao i Porsche i Lambo - .auto za seljake. a AM josuvek nisu provalili. Razlika po meni je otprilike kao kupini skupo odelo nekog poznatog italijanskog kreatora ili otici u London kod poznatog krojaca koji ce (za ne manje pare) sasiti odelo po narudzbini.
Skoro sam imao situaciju kada je jedan poznanik hteo da kupi nov auto (inace voli dobre automobile a i ima para) i razmisljao izmedju S600 i A8 W12 kada sam mu rekao da pogleda Maserati pitao .sta je to. a kada je video auto bacio sam ga u rebus - josuvek razmislja
. Samo sam mu objasnio da pojaviti se u Meci ili Audiju ima svoju tezinu ali pojaviti se u Maseratiju pokazuje da covek pored para poseduje i dobar ukus - ne podleze kliseima i pokazuje da razmislja drugacije od drugih.-
Flavio
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ex 1.8 T.S. KaraWagon
FL 147 120 TS
Stilo 80 JTD
Felicia Combi 75 I.E. - Lokacija: Srbistan
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Uz rizik da me modovi obrishu (zbog citata 
),
!Amen to that !
),ToNcA napisao: Samo sam mu objasnio da pojaviti se u Meci ili Audiju ima svoju tezinu ali pojaviti se u Maseratiju pokazuje da covek pored para poseduje i dobar ukus - ne podleze kliseima i pokazuje da razmislja drugacije od drugih.
!Amen to that !-
GostGo
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pa ja sam naravno aston martin naveo kao sta bi bilo kad bi bilo, neravno da bi u tom slucaju imao i neku alfu ali kao sto je neko rekao dosadile bi mi njene performanse koje se ne mere sa am ili nekim drugim skpljim modelima........... definiticno se slazem da covek koji vozi mercedes kaze pogledajte me imam puno para a neko ko vozi masera ima i puno ukusa uz novac
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Re: 612 Scaglietti
Jeremy Clarkson
When you drive into a village these days there is often an electronic sign that flashes on to tell you how fast you’re going. That’s very useful . . . but not half as useful as a sign to tell you how much of a berk you look.
I even have a name for such a device: a cock-o-meter. The idea being that it would process an image of your face, your hair and your clothes, and marry this information to the sort of car you’re driving. You’d then be given a score out of 10.
BMW M3s driven by people with shaved heads would get 10. Saabs driven by people in linen jackets would get maybe one or two.
And anyone in a Ferrari 275 GTS – even if they were a curious mixture of Bill Gates and Kim Jong-il – would get zero. In this car it is impossible to look like a cock.
Even if you are one.
This is not one of the great Ferraris. It is not a 250 GTO or a Daytona. It’s not a shark-nose racer or an F40.
Many car enthusiasts have never heard of it. Even among the Ferrari cognoscenti it’s a little known oxbow lake, Tim Henman with wire wheels.
If you liken Ferrari to the Who, it’s not Baba O’Riley or My Generation. It’s more like Happy Jack.
Part of the problem is that even by the contemporary standards of 1964 it really wasn’t very good.
The best thing is that it had an unusual fixed propshaft which, because the engine moved around on its rubber mountings, would wear out in moments. This meant owners never really had a chance to discover that the braking system was made out of what appeared to be veal. For stopping a GTS you’d have been better off opening the door and running your shoe along the road.
For reasons lost in the mists of time, the 275 was fitted with 14in wheels, which meant the discs had to be smaller than the engineers would have liked. They were fine for popping to the shops for milk, and at speed they’d work once or maybe twice. But after that I’m afraid you were going to meet your maker with a rather surprised and annoyed look on your face.
There was another interesting issue, too. Ferrari decided to fit a small two-man sofa instead of a passenger seat, saying they’d made a 2+1. And indeed they had, but woe betide the man who put a girl in a skirt in the middle. Because every time he went for fifth he’d get a slap.
None of this matters though, because, and I’m afraid I can’t take any argument on the matter, this is the prettiest Ferrari ever made. And that would make it the prettiest thing ever made, including Raquel Welch, who owned one.
I worry about modern Ferraris. They are deeply, deeply impressive and my respect for the technological abilities is boundless. They really do feel very far ahead of all other cars on the road. But emotionally they leave me unaffected: cold.
The 430, the 599 and to a lesser extent the 612 are as brilliant as laptop computers. But what I want from a Ferrari is not science and maths. I want heart and soul. I want love and affection. I want them to be less like a laptop and more like a book or a painting.
Perhaps this has something to do with the company’s current, and misguided, obsession with putting as much Formula One trinketry into the road cars as is humanly possible. Square steering wheels with gearchange advisory lights. Flappy paddle gearboxes. Five-way traction control. Look under the bonnet of a 599 and you’ll find the plastic sheet fitted to shroud the radiators has been sculptured to resemble the nose of an F1 car. That’s not clever. It’s naff. Drive past a cock-o-meter in a car like this and it will explode.
In the early days Ferrari road cars were not designed or marketed to exploit the company’s track stars. When the 275 came along in 1964 it had nothing in common with the V8 F1 car that John Surtees used to win the championship that year. And there was no attempt to pretend it did, as there is now with the grand prix tinsel and traction control malarkey.
Back then, yes, Ferrari’s racers kept the name in the headlines, but the road cars were made for playboys. People like Porfirio Rubirosa, who at 3am in a Montparnasse nightclub called New Jimmy’s suddenly remembered he was due to take part the following morning in a tennis tournament in Monte Carlo. Giddy, shall we say, after an evening in Paris he roared off in his Ferrari and did well, making it as far as the Bois de Boulogne before he veered off the road and into a tree, dying instantly. The 275 came from the days when Ferraris were bought by the white knights, the people who invented the jet set, not a bunch of IT consultants who want a flappy paddle gearbox so their stupid friends might think they’re Michael Schumacher. See a 599 and who comes to mind? Gary Neville? Philip Green? See a 275 and it’s a different picture that fills your head. It’s Grace Kelly in a headscarf cruising down the Promenade des Anglais. It’s Gianni Agnelli stepping off a Riva speedboat in St Tropez and screaming down the Riviera for a dinner date in Portofino. That’s why the 275 is a cock mask.
When you drive into a village these days there is often an electronic sign that flashes on to tell you how fast you’re going. That’s very useful . . . but not half as useful as a sign to tell you how much of a berk you look.
I even have a name for such a device: a cock-o-meter. The idea being that it would process an image of your face, your hair and your clothes, and marry this information to the sort of car you’re driving. You’d then be given a score out of 10.
BMW M3s driven by people with shaved heads would get 10. Saabs driven by people in linen jackets would get maybe one or two.
And anyone in a Ferrari 275 GTS – even if they were a curious mixture of Bill Gates and Kim Jong-il – would get zero. In this car it is impossible to look like a cock.
Even if you are one.
This is not one of the great Ferraris. It is not a 250 GTO or a Daytona. It’s not a shark-nose racer or an F40.
Many car enthusiasts have never heard of it. Even among the Ferrari cognoscenti it’s a little known oxbow lake, Tim Henman with wire wheels.
If you liken Ferrari to the Who, it’s not Baba O’Riley or My Generation. It’s more like Happy Jack.
Part of the problem is that even by the contemporary standards of 1964 it really wasn’t very good.
The best thing is that it had an unusual fixed propshaft which, because the engine moved around on its rubber mountings, would wear out in moments. This meant owners never really had a chance to discover that the braking system was made out of what appeared to be veal. For stopping a GTS you’d have been better off opening the door and running your shoe along the road.
For reasons lost in the mists of time, the 275 was fitted with 14in wheels, which meant the discs had to be smaller than the engineers would have liked. They were fine for popping to the shops for milk, and at speed they’d work once or maybe twice. But after that I’m afraid you were going to meet your maker with a rather surprised and annoyed look on your face.
There was another interesting issue, too. Ferrari decided to fit a small two-man sofa instead of a passenger seat, saying they’d made a 2+1. And indeed they had, but woe betide the man who put a girl in a skirt in the middle. Because every time he went for fifth he’d get a slap.
None of this matters though, because, and I’m afraid I can’t take any argument on the matter, this is the prettiest Ferrari ever made. And that would make it the prettiest thing ever made, including Raquel Welch, who owned one.
I worry about modern Ferraris. They are deeply, deeply impressive and my respect for the technological abilities is boundless. They really do feel very far ahead of all other cars on the road. But emotionally they leave me unaffected: cold.
The 430, the 599 and to a lesser extent the 612 are as brilliant as laptop computers. But what I want from a Ferrari is not science and maths. I want heart and soul. I want love and affection. I want them to be less like a laptop and more like a book or a painting.
Perhaps this has something to do with the company’s current, and misguided, obsession with putting as much Formula One trinketry into the road cars as is humanly possible. Square steering wheels with gearchange advisory lights. Flappy paddle gearboxes. Five-way traction control. Look under the bonnet of a 599 and you’ll find the plastic sheet fitted to shroud the radiators has been sculptured to resemble the nose of an F1 car. That’s not clever. It’s naff. Drive past a cock-o-meter in a car like this and it will explode.
In the early days Ferrari road cars were not designed or marketed to exploit the company’s track stars. When the 275 came along in 1964 it had nothing in common with the V8 F1 car that John Surtees used to win the championship that year. And there was no attempt to pretend it did, as there is now with the grand prix tinsel and traction control malarkey.
Back then, yes, Ferrari’s racers kept the name in the headlines, but the road cars were made for playboys. People like Porfirio Rubirosa, who at 3am in a Montparnasse nightclub called New Jimmy’s suddenly remembered he was due to take part the following morning in a tennis tournament in Monte Carlo. Giddy, shall we say, after an evening in Paris he roared off in his Ferrari and did well, making it as far as the Bois de Boulogne before he veered off the road and into a tree, dying instantly. The 275 came from the days when Ferraris were bought by the white knights, the people who invented the jet set, not a bunch of IT consultants who want a flappy paddle gearbox so their stupid friends might think they’re Michael Schumacher. See a 599 and who comes to mind? Gary Neville? Philip Green? See a 275 and it’s a different picture that fills your head. It’s Grace Kelly in a headscarf cruising down the Promenade des Anglais. It’s Gianni Agnelli stepping off a Riva speedboat in St Tropez and screaming down the Riviera for a dinner date in Portofino. That’s why the 275 is a cock mask.